You Can't Prompt the Room: The Last Skill AI Won't Replace - Balázs Horváth, VisualLabs
Description
Writing code is no longer the bottleneck. With AI generating specifications, tests, and entire implementations on demand, the expensive part of the software development lifecycle has shifted upstream to the people work. Getting the right stakeholders into the room, eliciting the real requirements, and figuring out what is actually worth building. This talk draws on a VisualLabs internal hackathon where 21 agent ideas were generated and 17 were abandoned, not because of technology limitations, but because they lacked data access, a clear business owner, or any measurable value. The 4 that survived are running in production today. The lesson: AI is optimised to produce the most common answer. Getting from a faster horse to a car requires a human who can read the room, map the process, and name the problem precisely before a single prompt is written. The session covers three practical tools for doing exactly that: story mapping for capturing process backbone and user stories at the right altitude; the 4-question value framework (whose problem, what winning looks like, what would cause refusal, what decision it changes); and the VAD thinking path (Value to Architecture to Design) as the discipline that separates production agents from demo agents. Attendees leave with a concrete shift in how they measure delivery: fewer features shipped, more features used more than twice. Speakers: - Balázs Horváth (VisualLabs): Balazs Horvath is the founder of VisualLabs, a Budapest-based premium Microsoft Partner, who has spent 13 years bridging business and technology across US and UK ERP and CRM programmes, and now helps enterprise teams ship production AI agents by rebuilding the requirements and story-mapping skills that the AI coding boom has made more important than ever. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/balazshorvathd365/
Summary
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- Core thesis: As AI commoditizes code-writing, the bottleneck shifts to requirements elicitation and stakeholder communication—'you can't prompt the room'—making analyst/product skills (story mapping, value architecture design) the last irreplaceable human capability.
- Why it matters: Ken's agent systems and AI ops teams risk building the wrong thing fast unless they master upstream problem definition, user story discipline, and customer-facing requirements work before prompting AI to generate code.
- Best use: Use as a playbook for reorienting Ken's smartest engineers upstream into requirements/product roles and adopting story mapping + VAD frameworks to ensure AI builds the right thing, not just the next thing.
Executive Summary
Balázs Horváth, founder of VisualLabs and a 13-year veteran of bridging business and IT, argues that AI has eliminated code-writing as the bottleneck in software development. The new constraint is figuring out what to build—a human skill rooted in stakeholder communication, requirements elicitation, and product sense. He frames this as 'you can't prompt the room': AI can generate code from prompts, but it cannot replace face-to-face discovery sessions, negotiation with decision-makers, or reading the room to uncover latent needs. Horváth's internal hackathon at VisualLabs produced 21 agent ideas; 17 were abandoned because they lacked business value or data access—only 4 had real impact. This ratio underscores that access to AI tooling does not guarantee valuable output; the filter is rigorous requirements work.
Horváth champions classic analyst techniques—user story mapping, business model canvas, value canvas—as the new core skill set. He walks through story mapping for a support system (contact → triage → resolve → close) and shows how capturing user stories ('As a support lead, I need cases triaged by urgency so that no escalations slip') gives AI the structured input it was trained on, yielding better code. He emphasizes the persona-need-why triad and acceptance criteria, and advocates daisy-chaining user stories into a coherent spec before prompting AI. His 'VAD' framework (Value → Architecture → Design) ensures teams start from business value, map the process, understand underlying systems, and only then design—avoiding the trap of building 'faster horses' when the market needs a car.
Horváth identifies anti-patterns: high feature velocity but low adoption, one-time usage without repeat engagement, 'demo is the deliverable' syndrome, and PRs that skip real user testing. He urges leaders to audit KPIs (stop counting features shipped; count features used more than twice), move subject-matter experts upstream to customer-facing roles, and run mapping sessions before every build. He frames this as 'old skill, new economics': product management and business analysis are not new, but AI's commoditization of coding has made them the decisive competitive advantage. The talk closes with a challenge to compare AI output with and without rigorous user story input, a test Horváth claims was his own 'holy cow' moment that cemented story-driven development in his practice.
Key Takeaways
- Claim: AI commoditizes code-writing, so the real bottleneck is now 'getting people into the room' and eliciting requirements—'you can't prompt the room.' | Evidence: Horváth's hackathon: 21 agent ideas, 17 abandoned for lack of business value or data access, only 4 had impact. He states 'getting access to code is no longer the bottleneck… the real bottleneck is getting your stakeholders into the room and being able to elicit the requirement.' | Caveat: Assumes sufficient AI maturity and tooling access; in orgs without advanced AI infra, code-writing may still bottleneck. Also assumes stakeholders are available and willing to engage, which is not always true. | Implication: Ken's teams should invest in hiring/training product analysts and requirements specialists, not just more engineers. Sprint planning should allocate explicit time for stakeholder interviews and requirements sessions before AI generates any code. | Timestamp: timestamp unavailable
- Claim: User story structure (persona, need, why) + acceptance criteria is the optimal input format for AI code generation because AI was trained on these well-known patterns. | Evidence: Horváth: 'AI is really good at pattern recognition and it was actually trained on the user story structure because it's a very well known and well used setup. So if you go back to something familiar to AI, it will get you better results.' Example: 'As a support lead, I need to open cases right by urgency so that none of the escalations slip.' | Caveat: No quantitative comparison provided (e.g., code quality, test pass rate, or iteration count with vs. without user stories). Speaker relies on anecdotal experience and does not specify which AI models or prompt frameworks were tested. | Implication: Ken should standardize user story templates across agent/AI projects and require acceptance criteria in markdown files tracked in repos. Run a controlled test: build one feature with full user stories, one without, and measure code correctness, edge-case coverage, and iteration cycles. | Timestamp: timestamp unavailable
- Claim: Story mapping (backbone steps + user stories beneath) and the VAD framework (Value → Architecture → Design) prevent 'faster horses' syndrome and ensure AI builds transformative solutions, not just incremental improvements. | Evidence: Horváth references Henry Ford: 'If he'd asked customers what they needed, they would have said more horses. But in reality, you build a car.' He shows a story map for support (contact → triage → resolve → close) with MVP stories (capture intent, classify urgency, draft answer, log to system) and backlog stories (read sentiment, suggest next action, check satisfaction). | Caveat: Story mapping is time-intensive and requires skilled facilitators; Horváth does not address how to scale this across multiple teams or rapid-iteration contexts. VAD is conceptually sound but lacks a detailed implementation guide or failure modes. | Implication: Ken should pilot story mapping workshops for high-stakes agent projects and train product leads in facilitation. Embed VAD checkpoints in sprint 0 and gate AI build kickoff on completed value/architecture analysis to avoid building the wrong thing fast. | Timestamp: timestamp unavailable
- Claim: Anti-pattern metrics to eliminate: feature velocity, time-on-site. Replace with 'features used more than twice' and frequency of repeat activity. | Evidence: Horváth: 'If you've got velocity of shipping new features crazy, but the adoption is not good… that's a very poor pattern. Don't look at time of usage. Much rather look at the frequency of a certain activity. If the demo is the deliverable… a demo system is not a live system.' | Caveat: Frequency of use can be gamed (e.g., automated pings) and may not capture deep value for infrequent but critical tasks (e.g., annual compliance workflows). No threshold given for 'more than twice' or time window. | Implication: Ken's product analytics should instrument repeat-usage cohorts (7-day, 30-day) and flag features below a threshold for sunsetting or redesign. Shift eng team OKRs from story points shipped to 'features achieving >10% monthly active usage within 60 days of launch.' | Timestamp: timestamp unavailable
- Claim: Move your smartest people upstream to customer-facing roles and involve them in 'what to build' decisions, not just 'how to build.' | Evidence: Horváth: 'Before the AI boom, we had our smartest people writing our code, but now we need to be shifting our smartest people towards our customers, towards the business problems… deciding what to build is the expensive part. Building it has become very cheap.' | Caveat: Senior engineers may resist product/analyst roles due to career identity or comp structures that reward technical IC work. Horváth does not address transition plans, training, or how to retain deep technical expertise if top talent shifts entirely upstream. | Implication: Ken should create hybrid 'technical product lead' roles with eng+product responsibilities and pair senior engineers with customers for quarterly discovery sprints. Comp bands and promotion criteria must reward requirements quality and customer impact, not just code contributions. | Timestamp: timestamp unavailable
Detailed Brief
The Bottleneck Has Shifted: From Code to Requirements
- Claims: AI has commoditized code-writing; the new constraint is stakeholder access and requirements elicitation.; Internal VisualLabs hackathon: 21 agent ideas, 17 abandoned due to lack of business value or data access, 4 had real impact.; Horváth's 13-year career as a bridge between business and IT (functional designs, ERP/CRM consulting, founding VisualLabs) informs his view that customer interaction has not changed, but how we build has.
- Evidence: Horváth: 'Getting access to code and being able to build is no longer the bottleneck… the real bottleneck is getting your people, your stakeholders, your decision makers into the room.'; Henry Ford analogy: customers would ask for 'more horses,' not a car—AI by default gives 'the most common answers,' replicating existing solutions unless guided by deep requirements work.
- Caveats: No data on how many orgs have reached the same maturity level where code is not a bottleneck.; Assumes stakeholders are available and willing to engage, which is not always the case in large or distributed orgs.
- Implications: Ken's hiring should pivot toward business analysts, product managers, and requirements specialists with domain expertise.; Sprint 0 should be mandatory for all AI/agent projects, with explicit time allocated for stakeholder interviews and room-reading sessions.
Story Mapping and User Story Discipline as AI Input
- Claims: Story mapping (backbone + user stories beneath) provides high-level process view and prioritization (MVP vs. backlog).; User stories should follow persona-need-why structure + acceptance criteria because AI is trained on these patterns and will generate better code.; Daisy-chaining user stories creates a coherent system spec that AI can translate into production code.
- Evidence: Support system story map: contact → triage → resolve → close. MVP: capture intent, classify urgency, draft grounded answer, log to system. Backlog: read sentiment, write to team, suggest next action, check satisfaction.; Example user story: 'As a support lead, I need to open cases right by urgency so that none of the escalations slip.'; Horváth: 'AI is really good at pattern recognition… if you go back to something familiar to AI, it will get you better results.'
- Caveats: No side-by-side comparison of code quality with vs. without user stories provided.; Story mapping requires skilled facilitators and can be time-consuming; scalability across multiple teams not addressed.
- Implications: Ken should standardize user story templates in markdown and store them in repos for AI context.; Pilot story mapping workshops for 2-3 high-stakes agent projects and measure iteration cycles, bug counts, and user adoption vs. a control group without story mapping.; Train product leads and senior engineers in story mapping facilitation techniques.
VAD Framework: Value → Architecture → Design
- Claims: Always start from value: whose problem, what does winning look like, what would make them refuse to use it, would it change a decision.; Map the underlying process and architecture that supports that process before designing the system.; This prevents building 'faster horses' (incremental improvements) and enables 'car' (magnitude-shift innovations).
- Evidence: Horváth's four questions: Whose problem? What does winning look like? What would make them refuse? Would it change a decision?; Track all answers in markdown in the repo so AI can access context.; VAD sequence: understand value → map process → understand architecture → design system.
- Caveats: VAD is conceptually sound but lacks a step-by-step implementation guide or case studies showing failure modes.; No guidance on how to handle conflicts between value, architecture constraints, and design trade-offs.
- Implications: Ken should embed VAD checkpoints in sprint 0 and gate AI build kickoff on completed value/architecture analysis.; Create a VAD template doc with the four questions and process/architecture mapping sections, and make it mandatory for all agent projects.; Consider hiring or upskilling a 'value architect' role responsible for leading VAD sessions across teams.
Anti-Patterns and Metrics to Abandon
- Claims: Building the wrong thing looks like: high feature velocity but low adoption, one-time usage without repeat engagement, demo as deliverable, PRs without real user testing.; Metrics to eliminate: number of features shipped, time-on-site, velocity of new features.; Metrics to adopt: features used more than twice, frequency of repeat activity, real user feedback loops.
- Evidence: Horváth: 'If you've got velocity of shipping new features crazy, but the adoption is not good… that's a very poor pattern.'; Horváth: 'A demo system is not a live system. If a PR is not real user tested, then chances are it will not make it into a live environment.'
- Caveats: Frequency of use can be gamed or may not capture infrequent but critical workflows.; No specific threshold for 'more than twice' or time window for measurement.; Real user testing may be expensive or slow in some contexts.
- Implications: Ken's product analytics should instrument repeat-usage cohorts (7-day, 30-day) and flag features below a threshold for sunsetting.; Shift eng OKRs from story points shipped to 'features achieving >10% monthly active usage within 60 days of launch.'; Require real user testing (not just internal QA) before merging PRs for user-facing features.
Organizational Shift: Move Smart People Upstream
- Claims: Pre-AI boom: smartest people wrote code. Post-AI: smartest people should face customers and define problems.; Deciding what to build is now the expensive part; building it is cheap.; Involve subject-matter experts in decision-making about what gets built, not just how.
- Evidence: Horváth: 'We had our smartest people writing our code, but now we need to be shifting our smartest people towards our customers, towards the business problems.'; Horváth: 'I'm not suggesting everybody should become a functional consultant or product manager… just involve them in the decision-making.'
- Caveats: Senior engineers may resist product/analyst roles due to career identity or compensation structures.; No guidance on how to retain deep technical expertise if top talent shifts entirely upstream.; Transition plans and training requirements not addressed.
- Implications: Ken should create hybrid 'technical product lead' roles with eng+product responsibilities and attractive comp.; Pair senior engineers with customers for quarterly discovery sprints and retrospectives on 'what we should have built.'; Comp bands and promotion criteria must reward requirements quality and customer impact, not just code contributions.
Notable Concepts & Terms
- You can't prompt the room: Central metaphor: AI can generate code from prompts, but cannot replace face-to-face stakeholder negotiation, room-reading, or latent needs discovery. The irreplaceable human skill.
- Story mapping: User story mapping technique: backbone (high-level process steps: contact → triage → resolve → close) with user stories beneath, allowing prioritization into MVP vs. backlog. Horváth's core tool for requirements.
- VAD (Value → Architecture → Design): Horváth's framework for upstream thinking: start from business value, map underlying process and architecture, then design the system. Prevents 'faster horses' syndrome.
- Faster horses syndrome: Henry Ford analogy: asking customers what they want yields incremental requests (more horses) instead of transformative solutions (a car). AI defaults to 'most common answers,' so rigorous requirements are needed to escape this trap.
- Analyst toolkit: Horváth's term for the classic product/BA skill set now becoming decisive: story mapping, business model canvas, value canvas, design thinking. 'Old skill, new economics.'
- Anti-pattern: demo is the deliverable: Building impressive demos that are never deployed or user-tested, a common failure mode when AI makes prototyping too easy.
- Features used more than twice: Horváth's proposed replacement metric for feature velocity: count only features that achieve repeat usage, not one-time curiosity clicks.
Operator Notes / Why Ken Should Care
- For Ken's AI ops teams: This talk is a direct warning that the current bottleneck in agent/AI projects is not code generation but requirements elicitation and stakeholder alignment. Ken should audit whether his teams are running rigorous requirements sessions before prompting AI, or simply building whatever seems cool. The hackathon ratio (17/21 abandoned) is a sobering benchmark.
- For product/GTM: Horváth's VAD framework and four-question checklist (whose problem, what's winning, what's the refusal point, does it change a decision) are immediately actionable. Ken should embed these in sprint 0 templates and gate AI build kickoff on completed value analysis. This prevents the 'demo is the deliverable' trap.
- For hiring/org design: The recommendation to move senior engineers upstream to customer-facing roles is radical but logical. Ken should experiment with hybrid 'technical product lead' roles and ensure comp structures reward requirements quality, not just code output. Career tracks must reflect this shift or top talent will leave.
- For metrics/KPIs: The call to replace feature velocity with 'features used more than twice' and frequency of repeat activity is a hard pivot. Ken should instrument these in product analytics and flag features below threshold for sunsetting. This requires retraining PMs and eng leads to think in adoption cohorts, not story points.
- For workflow/tooling: Horváth emphasizes storing user stories and acceptance criteria in markdown files in the repo so AI can access them as context. Ken should standardize this practice and evaluate whether current LLM prompts are ingesting these artifacts. If not, the team is leaving quality on the table.
- For competitive strategy: 'Everyone has access to the same tools. The difference will be who can understand the business need better.' This is a zero-sum insight: if Ken's competitors adopt story mapping and VAD faster, they will build better products with the same AI. Ken should treat analyst skill-building as a competitive moat and not just a process improvement.
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Transcript
Hi everyone. I am Balazh Hrubat and today I will talk to you about what is the last thing that AI will take away from us as people in the software business. So at a point where writing code is no longer the bottleneck, the real thing is figuring out what it is that you should be building. And that comes down to people skills and being able to work the room because you can't prompt a room, you can prompt your AI. So at the beginning of the year, we held an internal hackathon where we had about 21 agents, agent ideas, and 17 of those were abandoned because they actually created business value. They either didn't have data access or it just didn't make sense to build it. And those four were the ones that actually had a very big impact on how we work today. And it's a very good example of just making sure that we are building what is worth building. And throughout my career in the past 13 years, I've always been the bridge between business and IT and the developers. I started writing functional designs, specifications, and then I wrote them. And as a functional consultant, I worked with large ERP and CRM programs in the US and the UK. And then I founded Visual Labs. And essentially, I trained my team on how to elicit those requirements in a way that we can turn them into good specifications for developers to build, for consultants to configure, and most recently for AI to build. And what hasn't really changed over the years is how we interact with our customers, how we interact with systems, how we interact with AI is very much changing. And that's the big thing now. But if you can read the room, if you can elicit the right requirements, then you will be able to build more valuable software. And that essentially the big shift over the past two or three years was that getting access to code and being able to build is no longer the bottleneck to the software development lifecycle. Now, the real bottleneck is getting your people, your stakeholders, your decision makers into the room and being able to access them and elicit the requirement and being able to spend the time with them. So that's the real bottleneck: figuring out what it is that should be built. Because you can prompt your code, you can prompt your AI, you can prompt your whole specification, but you can't prompt your room. And what a model can do is very similar to the analogy Henry Ford said about asking his users or his customers. If he'd asked them what it is that they needed, they would have said they needed more horses. But in reality, you build a car and he made a perfect success on them. So if you're just using AI to make things, build things better, the chances are that you are replicating what already exists because AI, by definition, is coded to give you the most common answers. So for us, the real job is to make sure that AI moves away from that average into what is better for us. So we can get to not a faster horse, but actually produce a car that's a magnitude shift better than what we had. So it's really an interesting world where being able to write good code is no longer the most important skill to have. Actually, the real skill now is becoming the analyst toolkit, which is things like story mapping, business model canvas, value canvas, and those good old things that we are so used to using as functional consultants, business analysts, or in the world of design thinking. So I'd like to zoom in on story mapping because that's the skill set that I found as the most valuable. So once you have the story map with the backbones and understand at each step what your customers, your users are doing, that would give them the ability to move forward in their processes. So here's a support systems user story map: contacting, triaging, resolving, and then essentially closing the case. With this, you can understand different stages of the process and then capture the user stories beneath them. It is intended to stay at a fairly high level so you can get a big picture. And then you can decide what it is that you want to build or release one like capturing intent, classifying urgency, drafting a grounded answer, and then logging it to a system of record. So that's essentially your MVP. That's essentially your MVP. Those are the first things that you'd want to build. And those are your first four user stories. And beneath those, you've got the second set of user stories like reading sentiment, writing to a team, suggesting next action, checking satisfaction, and so forth. Those will be part of your backlog. So what would allow you to get really good agentic results is by honing in on these user stories and making sure that you use these user stories as a means to elicit discussions with your stakeholders, with your business, and then work out what that user story should really be about. So the first user story, second user story would be: as a support lead, I need to open cases right by urgency so that none of the escalations slip. So just make sure that every user story covers these; ideally it's written in this setup because AI is really good at pattern recognition and it was actually trained on the user story structure because it's a very well known and well used setup. So if you go back to something that's familiar to AI, it will get you better results. And every user story is actually made up of these well known structures: the persona, the what, the actual need and the why. So by packaging these up and giving it to AI obviously with the acceptance criteria based on which you can derive the test cases, you will be able to create very good setup and very good results. And then if you just connect these user stories, daisy chain them up, then that will allow you to create a coherent system based on which you can create your specification and then essentially your code. So the software development lifecycle doesn't change as much as a result of AI. It's actually the toolkit that we are using that is changing. So when we work with systems, and when we think about what we want to build, I always like to ask these four questions: Whose problem is this? Whose problem are we actually solving? So we can name it to a direct person, direct persona, and it's very much quantified. What does winning look like for them? So when are they actually successful? Are they achieving the right outcome? Can we help them achieve that right outcome in a quick way or a smooth way or a safe way? And what would make them refuse to use it? It's not available on their platform. It's cumbersome to use. It's the data security aspect. So they would actually use it. And would it change a decision? Ideally, we want to be impacting how a person makes a decision, and we'd want to tilt them to making better decisions. So does it change a decision? And what is the decision that it changes? So once you can answer these four questions, then you'll be able to elicit better responses from your AI and just make sure that you track all of these in a markdown file in your repository so that AI can access it. It will get way more context out of it. And if you just did something as generic as build an agent that handles support, you will not get the answer you want. So what we always do is go from value. So understand how value is created, what constitutes value, how the process currently flows, what is the underlying architecture beneath it that supports that process. And then you can start the actual design where you can start designing. So we like to call this thinking process VAD: value architecture design. And this is what we want to always go through. So always have value in mind: how we're creating value, what is the value we are creating, what is the value that your customer is looking for, what is the underlying process that supports this, and how you can design a system around it. So it best supports the value and the process and what process changes are needed along the way. So you might ask, isn't this just good old product management? And to a certain extent, yes. It is an old skill, it is an old trade that is worth picking up and learning, because this is now becoming the mode of how you can elicit the right requirements, how you can build better software, because we all have access to the same tools. So the difference will be who can understand the business need better, because then we can all just have the latest and greatest model write the code for us. So it's old skill, but new economics, and it's a real shift towards analyst toolkit. So what building the wrong thing looks like: if you've got velocity of shipping new features crazy, but the adoption is not good. If people are barely using it, that's actually a very, very poor pattern. That's what you want to address. If people are trying out new features, they're logging into the new system. We just coded our craziest, newest thing, but they are not actually reusing it. So don't look at time of usage and time spent on site. Much rather you can look at the frequency of a certain activity. Another anti-pattern is if the demo is the deliverable. We want to make sure that people can put things into production. It's really fast to do a demo and it will look nice, but people aren't actually using it. So a demo system is not a live system. And if a PR is not real user tested, so if you don't gather proper feedback from a real user, then chances are it will not make it into a live environment and people will not use it. So the big thing here is actually putting your everything needs to be moving upstream here. Earlier on before the AI boom, we had our smartest people writing our code, but now we need to be shifting our smartest people towards our customers, towards the business problems. And we need to be spending more time on deciding what to build because that's the expensive part. Building it has actually become very cheap. So a couple of things that you can start doing from Monday morning or from the next day is audit the wrong thing. Just start figuring out what are the wrong things that you're currently tracking. And just make sure that you are realigning your measurements, your time, what it is that you're looking for. The number of features shipped last quarter should be eliminated. And just start looking at the number of features that we ship that is actually used more than twice. So that would be a good shift in your KPIs and your metrics. And just make sure that you're moving those real subject matter experts to a more customer facing, client facing role or position where they have an actual impact on what gets built. And I'm not suggesting that everybody should become a functional consultant or a product manager or product owner. I'm just saying involve them in the decision-making because they have the most experience of what worked in the past and what didn't. And just making sure that gets included in the decision-making of what should be built is a super important aspect. And I still do this, or recommend it to everyone to actually start doing a mapping session before you build. Just make sure that you either create a user story map or business model canvas or any old mapping that highlights where the value lives. And just make sure that you understand how you create value. So I hope you found this valuable. It's lots of all things stitched together that will really make a difference. Just give it a shot. If you have a good use case that you want to code, try building it with user stories first or without user stories and just compare the difference in the results. When I did this for myself, that was the big shift that I started doing: holy cow, I still need to incorporate user stories in my development. So this way we can build the right thing and not just the next thing. You can scan the QR code to connect with me on LinkedIn. Would be happy to chat further. Thank you so much. Uh, when I did this for myself, that was the big, big shift that I started doing is holy cow. I still need to incorporate user stories, uh, in my development. So this way we can build the right thing and not just the next thing. Um, you can, uh, scan the QR code, uh, to connect with me on LinkedIn. Uh, would be happy to chat further. Thank you so much.